Talk:Catholic Church in Croatia

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Can I suggest this useful article is moved to the title 'Roman Catholic Church in Croatia' since other Christian groups also claim to be part of the Holy Catholic Church, it is a little one-sided to designate those who recognise the authority of the pope as being 'the Catholic Church'- as opposed to one part of it. --Doc Glasgow 21:54, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps, but in Croatia when one talks of the Catholic Church this meaning is in the supermajority so judging by that the move is rather moot. --Joy [shallot] 12:00, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Not up-to-date

compare bishoprics with: HBK or de:Katholische Kirche in Kroatien --Neoneo13 11:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Mostar / Medjugorje

In what diocese is Medjugorje? I thought Mostar, but I don't see that. Is it Split?

See Roman Catholic Church in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Medjugorje is in the Mostar-Duvno Bishopric. --Thewanderer 20:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Međugorje is in Bosnia-Hercegovina. Though it is a place of pilgrimage for Croats. Places of pilgrimage are not bound to countries or national churches. it is a place of pilgrimage for catholic croats. many people think that it is in croatia. Actually, Bosnia did not have an own established catholic church until recently, so the whole church in bosnia was organized by croatia, as well as other facts of the catholic church among Croats. Actually the Bosnian national catholic church is very much linked to the croatian church. (as is the diocese of kotor, which actually still belongs to split). There should be mentioned more places of pilgrimage in and around croatia. --Neoneo13 22:37, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Primacy of Zagreb?

Please see Talk:Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Zagreb#Primacy? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 14:11, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Croatian Catholicism in the US, point of information

Having no familiarity at all with this topic myself, this is the best venue I could find in which to offer a historical news reference that might be of interest to one of the projects associated with the article. It appeared within a new-year's-type list of events that happened in 2013. The "ref" body text might go like this: 'Oregonian, 12 Jan 2014, p. L2, "St. Nicholas Croatian Catholic Church, Pittsburg, Pa: The first Croatian parish in the Western Hemisphere was demolished after the diocese closed its doors in 2000.". The quote is in fact, the entire news story. I thought it more likely that the parish had been straight Roman Catholic rather than Eastern Catholic, but you have the sum total of my knowledge here. Hope a more knowledgeable editor might find it useful somewhere. Evensteven (talk) 20:52, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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Controversies section

I am going to remove the "Controversies" section since in comparison to the body of text is too large, is not well written, with dubious sources and individual cases which do not represent the Catholic Church in Croatia as an entity (guilt of association). Doesn't look like an encyclopedic section as reads like a selective news, but WP:NOTNEWS and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. If somebody wants to revert part of information in some new version, per WP:BRD discuss it first here instead of WP:POINT revert. Miki Filigranski (talk) 11:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

The individual cases could be moved to a specific article about the controversies in the Catholic Church in Croatia. This article can link that, and mention any broad matters, such as the leadership generally acting or not acting on something from individual members - supported by sources that specifically talk of such generalities. --Joy (talk) 11:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Looking at the general body of Wikipedia articles, there are two patterns - one is having a broad-concept article like Criticism of the Catholic Church, and another is a topical article like Catholic Church sexual abuse cases.

In this topic area we have a topical article in Catholic clergy involvement with the Ustaše, which is a bit of a clumsy title, come to think of it, but clearly historical in nature. All of what you removed sounds like it could be a topical article like Involvement of Catholic clergy with neo-fascism in Croatia? --Joy (talk) 11:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Indeed, which could be a sub-section within Catholic clergy involvement with the Ustaše, or simply create new article Controversies of the Catholic Church in Croatia, dealing with various topics one of which sections could be about the neo-Ustashe sympathy. --Miki Filigranski (talk) 12:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)