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Citizenship
[edit]The concept of human right 196.191.189.140 (talk) 20:09, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not done It is unclear what you wish to have done. Peaceray (talk) 20:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Villalobos or Cook ?
[edit]In 1542 there was the longitude problem ; longitude measurement required chronometers of good quality, which wasn't available during the 1500's. However measurement of latitude was good enough - and very simple in sunshine together with accurate date at local noon. The Marshall islands are located around 7th degrees North. The Hawaii islands are located at 21th degrees North - a difference of 14 latitudes (the North to South difference or distance in nautical miles are 14 x 60 = 840 nm. Villalobos simply could not have done a so huge miscalculation. Cook got ashore as first of the explorers, but Villalobos spotted the islands long before him. Please correct this error. 83.254.179.26 (talk) 00:24, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- You need a source UnsungHistory (Questions?) (Did I mess up?) 00:35, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Should we clarify that the map of Hawaii doesn't include the Leeward Hawaiian Islands?
[edit]These islands are all part of Honolulu County (with the exception of Midway Atoll) and therefore part of the state. Sure, no one lives there, but you can say the same thing about much of Alaska, and people do visit them. Yes, the Leeward Hawaiian Islands are a pretty long chain that dwarfs the more populated part of the state, but you can say the same thing about the Aleutian chain going all the way to the Eastern Hemisphere. These are part of the state's territorial jurisdiction. They are just as much a part of Hawaii, USA as any of the many uninhabited parts of the Big Island, for example. Hist4ian (talk) 08:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Hist4ian you need a source to support your claim UnsungHistory (Questions?) (Did I mess up?) 00:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @UnsungHistory, as the information is trivially verifiable, even within the article itself, this line of concern generally isn't very productive. Remsense ‥ 论 00:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
European arrival
[edit]I feel this "European arrival" section under "History" needs a good review. There are broken links, use of questionable sources and (imo) giving undue weight to pre-Cook contact. As a first step, I want to split the European arrival into two sections called "Speculation of European contact before 1778" and "First recorded contact by James Cook". Thoughts or comments? Jp2207 (talk) 20:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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