Talk:By-product
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[edit]Isn't "byproduct" the preferred form? --DV 08:16, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I'd have thought so, too, but both OED and Websters use the hyphenated form. Elf | Talk 15:43, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- "By-product" is thoroughly outmoded in modern English, so no matter what old dictionaries say, eliminate the hyphen. Common examples: coal byproducts, peanut byproducts, petroleum byproducts, soybean byproducts, byproducts of ore processing. In the latter case, the primary ores for copper & nickel (such as in Ontario) yield byproducts of silver, gold, antimony, selenium, and so forth. The processing of uranium ores yields the byproducts of polonium, radium, protactinium, francium, etc. The reprocessing of nuclear-reactor fuel rods yields more radioisotopes as byproducts that can be easily listed.47.215.180.7 (talk) 03:22, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Suggested action: move to wiktionary
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- Why? Seems to me there's enough material out there to make an article out of this. What's already there is more than a mere definition already. Elf | Talk 02:00, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- A by-product is a generic thing; it is the context that it is produced in that renders it a specific meaning. It would be better to provide a definition for the term and place the information that has already been put into the stub into (and I'm not looking up the particular articles) a) mad-cow disease, b) butchering, c) chemical reaction. Not to mention by-products of industrial animal growth for food (massive amounts of nitrogenous waste), the by-product of high-level antibiotic use in such operations (emergence of resistant strains of bacteria), the the initial theory of gravity as a by-product of Newton's being hit upon the head with an apple (I'm not sure what the current thought is on whether the event actually happened or not :) ), the partial collapse of the beef industry as a by-product of a great deal of press about mad cow disease, etc. etc. Such diversity of uses suggests that it should be treated as a word to be defined and then used in articles as is appropriate rather than having an article written about it itself. Courtland 02:20, 2005 Feb 21 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I'm reading your thought process sort of backwards and thinking that it might be better as a disambiguation page (which often has a brief definition and then lists of places where detailed uses are defined, described, discussed. Whatchuthink? That would mean someone would have to figure out where the dab links are... ;-) Elf | Talk 05:21, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- That's a tough one. If one went that route then the target pages should likely be redirects with the message Template:R from related word attached; I know that these redirect-message templates aren't working right now, but I'm adding them when needed in anticipation of a fix at some time. For instance, take the animal by-product / mad cow disease relationship. One could refer on the disambiguation page to "animal by-products in the context of mad cow disease" with a link to By-product (CJD) which would be a redirect to Creutzfeldt-Jakob_disease.
- Thinking about this some more, a better alternative might be List of uses for the word "by-product" rather than a disambiguation page. This could include the short definition that you suggest for a disambiguation page. Courtland 14:28, 2005 Feb 21 (UTC)</nowiki>
Heat
[edit]Does heat also count as a by-product? Artman40 (talk) 18:05, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- It would if it were put to some useful purpose, such as in an electrical co-generation scheme. The use of waste heat from motorcar engines to operate heaters/defrosters in vehicles would be another example. K7L (talk) 13:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
unsourced
[edit]The following is all unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources for each item, checking the content against it, and citing it.
- I think that you are being completely ridiculous because there is such a thing as COMMON KNOWLEDGE. When the humidity gets high, and the temperature goes down, then we get rain, snow, and sleet. Furthermore, this water falls because of gravity. In the world of legal systems, such things are called "judicial notice", and they do not need to be verified by expert witnesses and evidence every time that they are mentioned.47.215.180.7 (talk) 03:43, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- "Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested, that it cannot reasonably be doubted."47.215.180.7 (talk) 03:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Major byproducts
- Animal sources
- blood meal – from slaughterhouse operations
- poultry by-product meal – clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered poultry, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines
- chrome shavings – from a stage of leather manufacture
- collagen and gelatin – from the boiled skin and other parts of slaughtered livestock
- feathers – from poultry processing
- feather meal – from poultry processing
- fetal pigs
- lanolin – from the cleaning of wool
- leather - hides and skins from slaughterhouse operations processed via the leathermaking process
- manure – from animal husbandry
- meat and bone meal – from the rendering of animal bones and offal
- poultry litter – swept from the floors of chicken coops
- whey – from cheese manufacturing
Vegetation
[edit]- acidulated soap stock – from the refining of vegetable oil
- bagasse – the fibrous residue remaining after sugarcane or sorghum stalks are crushed to extract their juice
- black liquor from the production of cellulose pulp using the kraft process
- bran and germ – from the milling of whole grains into refined grains
- brewer's yeast – from ethanol fermentation
- cereal food fines – from breakfast cereal processing
- corn steep liquor – from corn wet-milling
- distillers grains – from ethanol fermentation
- glycerol – from the production of biodiesel
- grape seed oil – recovered from leftovers of the winemaking process
- molasses – from sugar refining
- orange oil and other citrus oils – recovered from the peels of processed fruit
- pectin – recovered from the remains of processed fruit
- sawdust and bark – from the processing of logs into lumber
- soybean meal – from soybean processing
- stover – residual plant matter after harvesting of cereals
- straw – from grain harvesting
- tall oil from the production of cellulose pulp using the Kraft process
- vinasse – from the fermentation of sugar to ethanol fuel
- Minerals and petrochemicals
- asphalt – from the refining of crude oil
- fly ash – from the combustion of coal
- slag – from ore refining
- gypsum – from flue-gas desulfurization
- helium - from natural gas extraction
- ash and smoke – from the combustion of fuel
- mineral oil – from refining crude oil to produce gasoline
- salt – from desalination
- sulfur – from oil refining
- molybdenum and cobalt – from copper & nickel extraction
- Other
- sludge – from wastewater treatment
- waste heat - from electricity production and usage
- carbon dioxide - process of burning
-- Jytdog (talk) 01:25, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Practical reasearch
[edit]explain your desired byproduct for the study 119.94.72.253 (talk) 23:43, 21 April 2022 (UTC)